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edited November 2023 in 2020 Archives
This discussion was created from comments split from: Acer Predator Helios 300 - Intel HD Graphics bottlenecking the GTX 1060.

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  • Sumanth
    Sumanth Member Posts: 103 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon

    I'll sadly have to take that as the solution as I have searched the BIOS as well and found no option to disable the Intel HD. I also tried disabling the device from the device manager and the laptop screen wouldn't switch on at all. Other than CSGO, I'll have to do some benchmarking on other games to see if the difference is that huge as it is in CSGO and if it's worth it for me to invest in a 144 Hz monitor. (I'll probably get that monitor anyways as I'm playing CSGO competitively and the edge that I'll be getting with that monitor will benefit me nontheless.)

     

    Besides that, I honestly think the Predator Helios 300 is a terrible product and shouldn't be named in the Predator category. It's honestly a waste of money if it'll just keep bottlenecking itself when I can probably get more performance out of another laptop of another brand that actually lets me switch to the Nvidia to do all of the work. Let it be cheaper and weaker, I'll still get more performance out of it due to the fact that the bottleneck difference is just huge.

    Unless this somehow gets fixed by a new BIOS update (If the Nvidia is at all able to connect to the laptop monitor at all) or a new setting in the Predator Sense which already exists in the full version of it, allowing the external gpu to handle everything, I won't be recommending this device to anyone and I might actually sell it and invest my money in a normal, weak, work-only laptop and a proper gaming desktop.

    Thanks for your response though!

    Well I believe that for a matter of fact, Acer has one of the best laptops that you can get in the price vs performance segment. Quite a few gaming laptops out there are underclocked out of the box to reduce thermals, or just have really low thermal/power limits when compared to Acer, at the given price. Acer lets you use all of that CPU and GPU power, undervolts the new ones out of the box, gives a choice to increase power limit of the CPU and overclock the GPU, yes it has insanely loud fans, but that's to cool this madness, yea some products do throttle at extremes, adding a cooling pad or raising the laptop over a hard surface does the trick and btw, no other laptop takes their hardware to such extremes so they dont have to worry about such robust cooling designs again at given price point.
    It's a laptop, although its a gaming laptop, it's still made to be used atleast periodically on the go, having discrete GPU always working will reduce the battery life, this type of hardware already is power hungry, that would make it almost useless for most of the consumers.
    They provide one of the best screens too, yea giving option to disable the iGPU while gaming would be nice, maybe they will try to do it in the future. 
    And the difference you saw was just in CS : GO, the more frames you push to the screen, the more performance loss you get, most graphics demanding titles don't go as high and drop a very little in performance.
    It was never meant to be a desktop placement, it was never meant to be great for Esports games specifically but all of the genre combined. As a company, you'd prefer that instead of targeting specific audience.
    No offense though, i respect your opinion.
    But i strongly believe, Acer gives you ALL the power a combination of hardware can give and leaves it upto you to decide if you want to use it all, underclock and decrease temps like others, or maintain the boost by providing additional cooling/care. And that at lower prices and tweaking it to suit most consumers, which i can't argue with tbh.