Why Acer Swift 5 514-54GT use only PCIe 3.0 x 2 link instead of PCIe 3.0 x 4 link to Kingstone SSD ?

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edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives


Hello all. I'm owner of Acer Swift 5 514-GT54 and I working with Microsoft and Intel as Windows Insider Tester.
For Acer Swift 5 Core i7 1065G7 system here I had notice that Acer use only PCIe 3.0 x 2 with its Kingston SSD 512GB
via Intel lastest Optane Memory and Storage Management 17.9.1006.0 WHQL as picture above.



I'd like to choose PCIe 3.0 x 4 for optimal performance with the system. Could Acer teams correcting these part for all Swift 5 user around the world please ?

The Intel 495 chipset can perform better if you let it working full link performance. The chipset had 16 lane PCIe 3.0 according to it datasheet below.
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/datasheets/series-chipset-on-package-pch-vol-1-datasheet.pdf


Intel Icelake PCH 495 featuring 16 lane PCIe 3.0 . I think Acer team can do their best for all customers. 

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Core i9 7980XE RAMPAGE 6 EXTREME BIOS 3403 Intel 02006B06 MCU 2021-03-18 VROC VMD 7.5.0.1152 RST 18.34.0.1000 ME FW 11.12.86.1877 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 64GB GSKILL @3.2GHz 16-18-18-38 2T POSEIDON 1080i GTX  + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 WHQL/ AX1200i / 3 x 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS + OMS Driver 18.34.0.1000  Intel i219 V PHY UNDI OROM / Boot Agent 0.0.29 / 0.1.16 / 12.19.1.37  AQUANTIA AQC 107n FW 4.2.32 AQC 2.2.3.0  NZXT CAM 4.25.0 
Realtek HD 6.0.9161.1 WHQL 

Core i7 1065G7 Acer Swift 5 514-54GT BIOS 1.21 SP Intel 00000096 DATE 2020-09-09 MCU FW 13.0.40.1594 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 16GB SK Hynix LPDDR4 @ 5.32GHz 24-24-24-56 1T  Intel Iris Plus GPU 30.0.100.9684  NVidia GeForce MX250 + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 Intel NVME 600P PCIE x 4  Firmware PSF121C 1TB + OMS Driver AHCI MODE 18.34.0.100 Intel Wi Fi AX 201 22.0.40.7 Intel Bluetooth 22.0.40.7  Intel SGX 2.12.103.1 Synaptic Audio 9.0.282.110
Smart Audio 3 GUI version 1.2.1.18 

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  • Commodore_1995#
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    Have you checked with hwinfo64 the speed that appears?
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  • R6E7980XE
    R6E7980XE Member Posts: 145 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
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    Hi egydiocoelho , Nice to meet you here.

    The part that you showing on was PCI to PCI bridge (CPU to Intel 495 PCH) not a storage controller one.
    Both Skylake Kabylake Coffeelake Cometlake  and Icelake U/Y on this section was show the same link speed
    via HWinfo64 as picture below.


    It was CPU to PCH bridge not storage controller speed however when I had check by click the storage info once.

     We'll see the HWinfo64 detecting HM170/QM170 PCH SATA RAID Controller that control KINGSTON SSD via NVME 1.2 Protocol
    Then when I checking the Intel HM170/QM170 PCH Link Speed it was picture below.
     
    Core i9 7980XE RAMPAGE 6 EXTREME BIOS 3403 Intel 02006B06 MCU 2021-03-18 VROC VMD 7.5.0.1152 RST 18.34.0.1000 ME FW 11.12.86.1877 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 64GB GSKILL @3.2GHz 16-18-18-38 2T POSEIDON 1080i GTX  + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 WHQL/ AX1200i / 3 x 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS + OMS Driver 18.34.0.1000  Intel i219 V PHY UNDI OROM / Boot Agent 0.0.29 / 0.1.16 / 12.19.1.37  AQUANTIA AQC 107n FW 4.2.32 AQC 2.2.3.0  NZXT CAM 4.25.0 
    Realtek HD 6.0.9161.1 WHQL 

    Core i7 1065G7 Acer Swift 5 514-54GT BIOS 1.21 SP Intel 00000096 DATE 2020-09-09 MCU FW 13.0.40.1594 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 16GB SK Hynix LPDDR4 @ 5.32GHz 24-24-24-56 1T  Intel Iris Plus GPU 30.0.100.9684  NVidia GeForce MX250 + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 Intel NVME 600P PCIE x 4  Firmware PSF121C 1TB + OMS Driver AHCI MODE 18.34.0.100 Intel Wi Fi AX 201 22.0.40.7 Intel Bluetooth 22.0.40.7  Intel SGX 2.12.103.1 Synaptic Audio 9.0.282.110
    Smart Audio 3 GUI version 1.2.1.18 

    Microsoft Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.71

  • R6E7980XE
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    After checking via Sisoft Sandra 2020 lastest version. I think Acer choose very best component on premium class here.
    However we can not see any details about what KINGSTON 512GB SSD attached and its link speed via Sisoft Sandra.
    Core i9 7980XE RAMPAGE 6 EXTREME BIOS 3403 Intel 02006B06 MCU 2021-03-18 VROC VMD 7.5.0.1152 RST 18.34.0.1000 ME FW 11.12.86.1877 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 64GB GSKILL @3.2GHz 16-18-18-38 2T POSEIDON 1080i GTX  + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 WHQL/ AX1200i / 3 x 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS + OMS Driver 18.34.0.1000  Intel i219 V PHY UNDI OROM / Boot Agent 0.0.29 / 0.1.16 / 12.19.1.37  AQUANTIA AQC 107n FW 4.2.32 AQC 2.2.3.0  NZXT CAM 4.25.0 
    Realtek HD 6.0.9161.1 WHQL 

    Core i7 1065G7 Acer Swift 5 514-54GT BIOS 1.21 SP Intel 00000096 DATE 2020-09-09 MCU FW 13.0.40.1594 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 16GB SK Hynix LPDDR4 @ 5.32GHz 24-24-24-56 1T  Intel Iris Plus GPU 30.0.100.9684  NVidia GeForce MX250 + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 Intel NVME 600P PCIE x 4  Firmware PSF121C 1TB + OMS Driver AHCI MODE 18.34.0.100 Intel Wi Fi AX 201 22.0.40.7 Intel Bluetooth 22.0.40.7  Intel SGX 2.12.103.1 Synaptic Audio 9.0.282.110
    Smart Audio 3 GUI version 1.2.1.18 

    Microsoft Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.71

  • Commodore_1995#
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    I would like to see this door:

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  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,104 Trailblazer
    edited May 2020
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    Hi,
    I don't understand why Intel SiSoftware reports a Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ1 as PCIe/NVMe SSD, when I check the speeds in Userbenchmark, I couldn't find any 4 lanes speeds.
    https://picclick.co.uk/Kingston-512GB-M-2-SATA-SSD-NEVER-113417322934.html
    https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/849946/KINGSTON-RBUSNS8154P3512GJ1
  • R6E7980XE
    R6E7980XE Member Posts: 145 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
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    Hi all , I think we got it now! After search relate topic here about Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ1 NVME SSD.
    I saw our friend get same problem on 
    Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ1 using PCIe 3.0 x 2 mode rather than PCIe 3.0 x 4 mode.
    According to 
    https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/766274


    So Intel Optane Memory and Storage Management 17.9.1006.0 WHQL report here was true. 


    My Swift 5 performance is OK. However if Acer can manage this point via config Kingston RBUSNS8154P3512GJ1 on PCIe 3.0 x 4 mode.
    Every users around the world will be more impressive on this model. 

    And if they can adopt Intel lastest microcode 00000082 for Icelake U/Y to new BIOS version (newier than 1.14) 
    It will bring new level of performance for us too.  

    Intel cpu706E5_plat80_ver00000082_2020-04-22_PRD_DEA15452

    Now I had testing with 00000046 microcode for Windows 10 2021 H1 Insider Preview Build 19631.1. Overall performance of this laptop also good.



    Core i9 7980XE RAMPAGE 6 EXTREME BIOS 3403 Intel 02006B06 MCU 2021-03-18 VROC VMD 7.5.0.1152 RST 18.34.0.1000 ME FW 11.12.86.1877 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 64GB GSKILL @3.2GHz 16-18-18-38 2T POSEIDON 1080i GTX  + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 WHQL/ AX1200i / 3 x 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS + OMS Driver 18.34.0.1000  Intel i219 V PHY UNDI OROM / Boot Agent 0.0.29 / 0.1.16 / 12.19.1.37  AQUANTIA AQC 107n FW 4.2.32 AQC 2.2.3.0  NZXT CAM 4.25.0 
    Realtek HD 6.0.9161.1 WHQL 

    Core i7 1065G7 Acer Swift 5 514-54GT BIOS 1.21 SP Intel 00000096 DATE 2020-09-09 MCU FW 13.0.40.1594 DV 2050.100.0.1053 WHQL 16GB SK Hynix LPDDR4 @ 5.32GHz 24-24-24-56 1T  Intel Iris Plus GPU 30.0.100.9684  NVidia GeForce MX250 + NVIDIA Driver 471.22 Intel NVME 600P PCIE x 4  Firmware PSF121C 1TB + OMS Driver AHCI MODE 18.34.0.100 Intel Wi Fi AX 201 22.0.40.7 Intel Bluetooth 22.0.40.7  Intel SGX 2.12.103.1 Synaptic Audio 9.0.282.110
    Smart Audio 3 GUI version 1.2.1.18 

    Microsoft Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.71