Hi guys, new to the predator forums (though I owned a Acer predator X34A before I had to RMA it 3 times
and wanted to share a few thought and ask a few questions about the Helios 700;
TL; DR: Amazing out of the box performance, but flawed audio, screen and Predator Sense profiles;
I need to be able to edit the Predator sense settings (fans and XTU profiles); If anybody can link me to something that acutally works with THIS laptop, I would very much appreciate it. Replacing the XTU profiles with renamed versions lead to errors "profiles did not match CPU" - even the original ones, leading to terrible default settings.
HotelHero's version of GPU OC still works like a charm with the Helios700;
So, I have been excited to buy one of these for a while now, as I like the idea of the cooling solution and hand-rest. Finally the laptop was available in Germany at the beginning of last week and I immediately ordered the 9980HK / RTX 2080 / 32GB Hynix 2666 / 1GB NVME version;
After testing / installing / tuning for a few days I came to these conclusions...
GPU and CPU are super powerful ( Timespy 10250 / Firestrike 21000 with preset Turbo profile & Timespy 11000/ Firestrike 23500 after some manual editing)
Magforce keys are allright
Thunderbolt / lots of connection options
Whish I could turn off the Predator RGB at the backside of screen. Use this laptop for gaming and business.
Predator Sense settings (OC/ fans)
Flashing keyboard until Predator Sense is loaded in WIN10 (you open the laptop in a meeting and you have a 15 second lightshow, not cool- at least you can turn the sounds off.)
Sound system: Instead of "oooomph" it is "squeeek"; Also: Pull the keyboard out and it muffles the front speakers.
Screen: Heavy bleeding, bad uniformity, contrasts are allright;
So, let me get into more detail about the things I wish Acer has done differently or wish they will update soon. (Feel like a beta tester with the laptop)
1. Predator Sense
I understand that the engineers want to make sure that every laptop delivered does not run into OC problems. That is fine and I understand your hesitation to bring the profiles to their limit. BUT: Why not give the user more options to fine- tune?
Right now, Acer offers you 4 profiles and one of them is absolutely useless. Profiles for keyboard in normal position are
Normal: CPU up to 4200MHz on all cores / No OC of GPU ; Fans constantly running and switching between non- audible / audible / woooshhhh
Fast: CPU up to 4300MHz on all cores / 60MHz & 133 MHz GPU OC; Fans at max speed
Pull out the keyboard and you get
Boosted: CPU up to 4400 MHz on all cores; 60MHz/ 266MHz GPU OC; decent fan control; This design is acutally quite well done. It gets a little louder in gaming, but is still less audible than my old Schenker.
Turbo: CPU up to 4500MHz on all cores; 100MHz/ 400 MHz GPU OC; fans at max speed
All profiles come with a 0.11V undervolting of CPU and different Watt targets between 45W and 90W;
So, what are my thoughts? First of all, I wish Acer would give us more options to adjust these settings to our liking. The things I want to be optimized are:
- adjustable fan controls: Please give me the option to set my own fan curve.
- adjustable XTU profiles: Predator Sense switches between 4 preset CTU profiles. Sadly, they do not like editing. Once you edit a profile with the newest version of XTU it will not be recognized anymore and the CPU switches to default mode without UC and gets quite warm. My CPU can easily run the settings of all 4 profiles at -0.13V, but hey. I am not allowed to. There are online guides how to circumvent this, but in the end, Predator Sense always resets my CPU settings no matter what to terrible default state.
- If we are not allowed to make our own, then change the CPU profiles so they make more sense! Right now, "Fast" is useless. It is super loud, the OC is barely recognizable and when you pull out to boosted you get a more powerful but less audible performance as well. This leads me to my wish: Make "Normal" -> "Silent"; Edit CPU max MHz to a value, where the fans can stay below 1400rpm, so they stay silent. Everything above is clearly audible. Replace "Fast" with "Normal"; Now you have a good performance with ok fans.
- Give us the opportunity to OC the GPU via Sense instead of editing it by text file. The GPU performs excellent at 160MHz/ 400Mhz at less than 70°C in boosted with chilled out fans. No turbo needed. Funny thing is, when you install Predator Sense, the profile comes with a more aggressive profile- an auto- update lowers these settings though.
Please give us also the option to change the keys from flashing like crazy until Predator Sense is applied in Win10; If one of my work colleagues is an epileptic, I might kill them by booting my laptop in a business meeting ( already disabled the sound effects on start up and boost, but there is no option to keep the backlight of keys out until PS kicks in)
Well, not much one can change here, but the moment you pull out the keyboard it covers the front speakers, muffling all highs / mids. Weird design choice.
Please, better quality control. I do not want to send my laptop back just because it is bleeding like crazy. IPS lottery should not happen when you pay 3300 € for a product.
What are your experiences with this model? People who are thinking about buying, anything you want to know?
Have a great day!