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  • kot0005kot0005 Member Posts: 56 Devotee
    One of the users defending this monitor and the Asus one might have just accidentally admitted that they have connections with Asus..so yeah thats why they dont see these problems LOL. https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/major-problems-with-newly-released-acer-x35-and-asus-rog-swift-pg35vq-nvidia-acer-and-asus-are-silent-about-it.258529/page-3#post-4133975


    this is what he said, 

    "My connections to ASUS go directly to R&D. They definitely know what happens but haven't figure out how to deal with it and won't tell anything confidential."
  • SonicB0000MSonicB0000M Member Posts: 24 Networker
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
  • HAL_9000HAL_9000 Member Posts: 39 Devotee
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

  • SonicB0000MSonicB0000M Member Posts: 24 Networker
    edited October 2019
    Here is another video showing i have no flickering is Gears 5, the same part as someone on YouTube 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdlJYEqJ0cw
  • SonicB0000MSonicB0000M Member Posts: 24 Networker
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    what you talking about i don't move it hahaha? At 15 seconds i move it in a window. Watch it again 
  • HAL_9000HAL_9000 Member Posts: 39 Devotee
    @SonicB0000M
    is the overdrive is set to normal ?
    you might have the only working unit we know of so far.
    I am trying hard to like this monitor. I really want to buy it, but i want to make sure i am not spending 2500 Euro on a defective monitor.

  • SonicB0000MSonicB0000M Member Posts: 24 Networker
    HAL_9000 said:
    @SonicB0000M
    is the overdrive is set to normal ?
    you might have the only working unit we know of so far.
    I am trying hard to like this monitor. I really want to buy it, but i want to make sure i am not spending 2500 Euro on a defective monitor.

    Overdrive is set to normal as shown in the video yes
  • SilentMarketSilentMarket Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    Isn't it strange my 240Hz TN panel has the same scanlines...
  • KaiserlolKaiserlol Member Posts: 15 Troubleshooter
    SilentMarket said:
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    Isn't it strange my 240Hz TN panel has the same scanlines...
    I did watch those also on an IPS display and mine ,,flickered" as well... I think this is not a good test to showcase the problem.
  • HAL_9000HAL_9000 Member Posts: 39 Devotee
    @Kaiserlol
    I also have an IPS display that flickers with the crosstalk tests, but only inside the window. The entire backlight does not flicker and there are no scanlines or any influence of the pixels outside the browser window.
    Also my TN panel from work flickers inside the window when i move it around, but absolutely no issue outside the browser window.
  • SilentMarketSilentMarket Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast
    Kaiserlol said:
    SilentMarket said:
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    Isn't it strange my 240Hz TN panel has the same scanlines...
    I did watch those also on an IPS display and mine ,,flickered" as well... I think this is not a good test to showcase the problem.
    IPS, TN, VA panel are all LCDs.  
    Whatever the flickerings people complain about are no other than 1)Ghosting and 2)scanlines. And both of them are Pixel Inversions.
    Go through this article for details. http://www.techmind.org/lcd/index.html#inversion 
    The effects on high refresh rate VA/TN is much stronger on IPS. And the effect can happen even on a static image. 
    A VA monitor with these specs got many surprises.

  • KaiserlolKaiserlol Member Posts: 15 Troubleshooter
    edited October 2019
    SilentMarket said:
    Kaiserlol said:
    SilentMarket said:
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    Isn't it strange my 240Hz TN panel has the same scanlines...
    I did watch those also on an IPS display and mine ,,flickered" as well... I think this is not a good test to showcase the problem.
    IPS, TN, VA panel are all LCDs.  
    Whatever the flickerings people complain about are no other than 1)Ghosting and 2)scanlines. And both of them are Pixel Inversions.
    Go through this article for details. http://www.techmind.org/lcd/index.html#inversion 
    The effects on high refresh rate VA/TN is much stronger on IPS. And the effect can happen even on a static image. 
    A VA monitor with these specs got many surprises.

    OK I understand that. But still...they advertise that monitor as flicker free; you may call it ghosting or something else. But for me as a customer .. when I see many people showcase those videos where you can see a "flickering/ghosting - whatever" picture in situations and games in which I dont have problems at all with my 165hz IPS display then why should I buy that so called flicker free X35 which has worse display quality?!

    The term "flicker free" is at least misleading then for customers.
  • SilentMarketSilentMarket Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast
    Kaiserlol said:
    SilentMarket said:
    Kaiserlol said:
    SilentMarket said:
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    Isn't it strange my 240Hz TN panel has the same scanlines...
    I did watch those also on an IPS display and mine ,,flickered" as well... I think this is not a good test to showcase the problem.
    IPS, TN, VA panel are all LCDs.  
    Whatever the flickerings people complain about are no other than 1)Ghosting and 2)scanlines. And both of them are Pixel Inversions.
    Go through this article for details. http://www.techmind.org/lcd/index.html#inversion 
    The effects on high refresh rate VA/TN is much stronger on IPS. And the effect can happen even on a static image. 
    A VA monitor with these specs got many surprises.

    OK I understand that. But still...they advertise that monitor as flicker free; you may call it ghosting or something else. But for me as a customer .. when I see many people showcase those videos where you can see a "flickering/ghosting - whatever" picture in situations and games in which I dont have problems at all with my 165hz IPS display then why should I buy that so called flicker free X35 which has worse display quality?!

    The term "flicker free" is at least misleading then for customers.
    They passed the test by 3rd party TUV.  The flicker test standard for them is meant for PWM backlight dimming. 
    Check this for details: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm 
    It is a different thing and the X35 VA panel already (unfortunately) passed that.  
    So the flicker we talk about here is the pixel inversion
  • kot0005kot0005 Member Posts: 56 Devotee
    TweetiePie said:
    Boatkettlecheese said:
    "I do not mean to be rude but I would be careful how you tread.  Acer is a mighty global company who has Billions at their disposal not to mention a legal team who could drag your ***** to court and back and make your life absolutely miserable not to mention bringing their name into disrepute"

    Wow. That does 100% sound not just rude but threatening. What's he doing so wrong exactly? Stating the obvious in this instance which is actual fact. I dont see why your focus is in attacking him with threats and not trying to deal with the issue here. You are making people feel very uncomftable myself included. We just want what was sold to us under fair trade. Theres no way someone can drag you through court for wanting fairness when the whole court system is established as such.

    I have read all the replies look dry your eyes and man up I couldn’t care less what you all call Acer and if my screen was flickering then I would have it returned already I wouldn’t be on here moaning about it the reason why I am here is the fact I have not got one HDR game and I am not going to buy a HDR game just to test this monitor out looks like I will be able to download a play the division 2 for free for 4 days from Ubisoft, why am I still here is simple I have no HDR games but looks like that will happen this Thursday so yes I will play the game and if there is flickering on my screen I will ask for a refund and return the monitor.  I am not attacking anyone I am not the one who is calling anyone a maggot but to my mind you do not go about calling anyone maggots that term is very derogatory.

    I have spent a lot of dollars on my monitor so if your monitor is flickering return it for a refund or phone Acer and tell them you are going to take legal action, do whatever you all like but a little bit of decorum goes a long way in resolving issues you may have. So why is it you @Boatkettlecheese have singled me out for special attention that is a personal attack on me as a person like you I sit behind a keyboard you are not anonymous you are not hidden from view but you are a real person like me I am real not a bot or a troll @kot0005 remember you are the one who has been moaning the most about your faulty monitor so why not return it and buy something else I have asked for a JPEG Picture to show scan lines and as yet no one has  provided anything picture wise which will replicate the scan lines on my monitor that you all show in this thread. I have not had one fault but then I have not played any hdr games.

     

     @Boatkettlecheese and I quote. ( I don’t see why your focus is in attacking him with threats and not trying to deal with the issue here. You are making people feel very uncomfortable myself included. We just want what was sold to us under fair trade. There’s no way someone can drag you through court for wanting fairness when the whole court system is established as such.)

    I am not making anyone feel uncomfortable but @HAL_9000 used the word maggot to refer to acer to me that is rude so you don’t think calling acer a maggot company rude if you have a faulty monitor then take the route of litigation or return your monitor for a full unequivocal refund if you used a credit card you are protected contact your issuing back and assume a chargeback on the credit card for faulty goods or in my case I used PayPal. FFS people don’t make me laugh out very loud why are you all on here having a moan about your X35 monitor screens, return your faulty monitor or if you are apst retruning for a refund then start a charge back as you ahev 60 days from date of purchase you are all protected on a global scale by consumer right you can not be told you will nto receive a refund if the monitor is flickering then you will win any case you my broing to Acers door.

    I will let you all know how the division 2 went down and if I notice any flickering then it will be boxed up and shipping back Friday. And to prove the free trial here is a picture oh and after the game if you like the game after the free trial they give 75% off the retail price.

     

    So lets all be sensible here we are all adults. Chill out. FFS



    I already posted many links to the scanlines I recorded. I have already proved the problem with heaps videos i took in multiple games. i already have a video of the mountain image causing flickering and scanlines, There are multiple videos here from multiple users here. Stop trolling me.  I have tested 4 monitors. stop spamming these forums if yours is working fine. 


    I wish there was a ignore function on the forums, getting old and sick of reading troll posts.
  • kot0005kot0005 Member Posts: 56 Devotee
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    I can see the flickering when you move it and scanlines sometimes... I guess its that you just cant tell the difference...

    There is flickering in your Video. I am surprised u cant notice/see it ..
  • kot0005kot0005 Member Posts: 56 Devotee
    edited October 2019
    SonicB0000M said:
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    what you talking about i don't move it hahaha? At 15 seconds i move it in a window. Watch it again 
    I can see flickering in both gears 5 vid and the mountains img... How do you not see it ?


    There are different walls in gears 5 and the flicker intensity is different on each of them, but I do so the wall flicker too. its just too fast because ur moving your camera way too fast. same with the mountain image you move it too fast so flicker is not that obvious but I can still see. So sorry to break it but your monitor is not perfect..

    I have also tested many of these games on my LG 27GL850 and none of them are present and I never had flickering on the PG27UQ.
  • SilentMarketSilentMarket Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast
    HAL_9000 said:
    @Kaiserlol
    I also have an IPS display that flickers with the crosstalk tests, but only inside the window. The entire backlight does not flicker and there are no scanlines or any influence of the pixels outside the browser window.
    Also my TN panel from work flickers inside the window when i move it around, but absolutely no issue outside the browser window.
    It happens more clearly above 120Hz.  My IPS monitor can see it even at 82Hz. Set the Hz up and you should be seeing it. This is also what these testings are meant for. 
  • HAL_9000HAL_9000 Member Posts: 39 Devotee
    @SilentMarket
    cant. i am a 60Hz pleb for now  :/
  • SilentMarketSilentMarket Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast
    kot0005 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    HAL_9000 said:
    SonicB0000M said:
    I really am not lying, i have no flicker in games or this photo. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMx9VS6w-e0

    Only just uploaded so you might need to wait a few minutes for it to render in higher resolutions. This is the best monitor i have ever had, yeah there is a some slight black smear but that is a VA issue and everyone should of known that.  
    you are not moving the image on the screen. open the link in a window, and move it around.
    you can also try this tests and see if you have scanlines:
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk1.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk3.html

    what you talking about i don't move it hahaha? At 15 seconds i move it in a window. Watch it again 
    I can see flickering in both gears 5 vid and the mountains img... How do you not see it ?


    There are different walls in gears 5 and the flicker intensity is different on each of them, but I do so the wall flicker too. its just too fast because ur moving your camera way too fast. same with the mountain image you move it too fast so flicker is not that obvious but I can still see. So sorry to break it but your monitor is not perfect..

    I have also tested many of these games on my LG 27GL850 and none of them are present and I never had flickering on the PG27UQ.
    You sure PG27UQ doesn't flick? I got the idea PG27UQ shall flick the same.
    Set the refresh rate above 82HZ, OD set normal. 
    Open the below link and make image big enough then drag the browser left and right
    http://www.techmind.org/lcd/crosstalk2.html 

    You shall see the vertical pixel inversion. My X27 does the same. It looks like below:
    https://i.imgur.com/kVmFvPG.gif

    Anyway, cheers on all LCD monitors

  • SilentMarketSilentMarket Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast
    HAL_9000 said:
    @SilentMarket
    cant. i am a 60Hz pleb for now  :/
    It looks like this. Very classic LCD Pixel inversion. It even happens on X27 IPS.  Not mentioning poor VA and TN...

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