Upgrading E5-575G-50BT (M.2 and ddr)

pinkosa

Hello, 

I have an E5-575G-50BT and I am trying to upgrade it by including an M.2 and expanding memory. 

About the M.2 I understand it can be NVMe, but I have a few questions:
1) Based on the pictures below you can see that Port #1 is version 3.0 and x4 - but it seems to be taken by the NVIDIA dedicated VRAM. It means that I won't be able to consider this speed, am I right?
2) From the remaining Ports, only the Port #9 seems to be "free" as the other two have been taken up by Wireless and Realtek. And the only one left is version 3.0 and x2... That means that I will only get x2 maximum if I put an M.2 there?
I am asking that because I don't have enough knowledge to understand if it makes sense to consider each port like this or not. 
3) What about the size? How do I know what size fits there? 2280 would be the right one?

About the memory:
1) Can I really expand memory? Currently I have 6GB DDR4. I would like to know if it is possible to add an additional slot of at least 4GB. 
2) If there is no extra slot, can I change this existent slot for a larger GB?

Appreciate your help. I think this community is really organized and with such great people giving attention to those in need. TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

Commodore_1995#

1) The video card is soldered to the motherboard. Therefore, you will not be able to use this port!

2) Yes! Even if you install a ssd m2 2280 gen3x4, ssd will be limited to gen3x2 speed. Your model accepts nvme gen3x2, see: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/493903/nvme-boot-ssd-in-e5-575g-55kk-it-is-possible

3) You can install a ssd m2 2280

4) This model supports up to 32GB ram ddr4 memory: https://icecat.biz/br/p/acer/nx.gdwep.011/aspire-notebooks-e5-575g-50bt-35978704.html

Ideally, you check the current ram memory with aida64:

IVAN_PC

Hi.

Your computer works, 2x M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe slots, the doubt may come that the PCIe connection channels are interconnected, but the speed supported is indicated, the length of m2 is 2280. Take into account that the socket, be M to verify that it would be compatible with PCIe, because the service manual details compatibility with SATA3, while the data you leave us is for PCIe, of users who have installed PCIe, on a computer just like yours.

System Memory 0 Two DIMM slots support DDR4 SDRAM:
Up to 16 GB of DDR3L 1600MHz system memory 
Up to 16 GB of DDR4 2133MHz system memory (Aspire E5-575, E5-575T only)
32 GB maximum memory capacity (using two soDIMM modules)
Supports dual-channel

Regards.

pinkosa

IVAN_PC said:

Hi.

Your computer works, 2x M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe slots, the doubt may come that the PCIe connection channels are interconnected, but the speed supported is indicated, the length of m2 is 2280. Take into account that the socket, be M to verify that it would be compatible with PCIe, because the service manual details compatibility with SATA3, while the data you leave us is for PCIe, of users who have installed PCIe, on a computer just like yours.

System Memory 0 Two DIMM slots support DDR4 SDRAM:
Up to 16 GB of DDR3L 1600MHz system memory 
Up to 16 GB of DDR4 2133MHz system memory (Aspire E5-575, E5-575T only)
32 GB maximum memory capacity (using two soDIMM modules)
Supports dual-channel

Regards.

Hi Ivan, thanks for responding so fast!
So, to clarify:

On the m.2, you cited: ' 2x M.2 PCIe x4 NVMe slots'
A) I didn't understand what you meant. Apologies for being so noobie.
It would be really helpful if you or someone else could help me understand the relationship of the ports and the slot for the m2 that I will use. I would like to clarify that those 2 questions I made initially:

1) Based on the pictures below you can see that Port #1 is version 3.0 and x4 - but it seems to be taken by the NVIDIA dedicated VRAM. It means that I won't be able to consider this speed, am I right?

2) From the remaining Ports, only the Port #9 seems to be "free" as the other two have been taken up by Wireless and Realtek. And the only one left is version 3.0 and x2... That means that I will only get x2 maximum if I put an M.2 there?

Regarding the GB, should I stick to 256 or can I use 500GB ? I have read that in some cases people tried and worked, but I wanted to make sure before buying it. 

C) Now about the memory, I already have one memory of 6GB, this is in DDR4. ok
If I want to buy another one of 8GB for the other channel, I have to buy DDR3 because it is in a different channel or it can be DDR4 as well as it is within the limit of 16GB and it doesn't matter the channel?

Appreciate your help. 
Thank you !

Commodore_1995#

1) The video card is soldered to the motherboard. Therefore, you will not be able to use this port!

2) Yes! Even if you install a ssd m2 2280 gen3x4, ssd will be limited to gen3x2 speed. Your model accepts nvme gen3x2, see: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/493903/nvme-boot-ssd-in-e5-575g-55kk-it-is-possible

3) You can install a ssd m2 2280

4) This model supports up to 32GB ram ddr4 memory: https://icecat.biz/br/p/acer/nx.gdwep.011/aspire-notebooks-e5-575g-50bt-35978704.html

Ideally, you check the current ram memory with aida64:

pinkosa

egydiocoelho said:

1) The video card is soldered to the motherboard. Therefore, you will not be able to use this port!

2) Yes! Even if you install a ssd m2 2280 gen3x4, ssd will be limited to gen3x2 speed. Your model accepts nvme gen3x2, see: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/493903/nvme-boot-ssd-in-e5-575g-55kk-it-is-possible

3) You can install a ssd m2 2280

4) This model supports up to 32GB ram ddr4 memory: https://icecat.biz/br/p/acer/nx.gdwep.011/aspire-notebooks-e5-575g-50bt-35978704.html

Ideally, you check the current ram memory with aida64

Hi amigo, thanks for responding! 
I understood now! So I will buy one m2 that has x2 so I will not lose money for the x4 that wont be used. 

In the HWINFO64 I have the memory part, and I discovered that it is already in dual channel! So I will replace the 2GB by one of 8GB DDR4 and will have my 12GB !
I am happy now that everything is clear! Truly appreciate your help!

Commodore_1995#

In this case, I suggest you choose to buy two 8GB!

pinkosa

I will buy the m2 and one of the memories (8GB). Once I have more money I will buy another memory! Thank you for your help!!!

Commodore_1995#

You are welcome!

pinkosa

egydiocoelho said:

1) The video card is soldered to the motherboard. Therefore, you will not be able to use this port!

2) Yes! Even if you install a ssd m2 2280 gen3x4, ssd will be limited to gen3x2 speed. Your model accepts nvme gen3x2, see: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/493903/nvme-boot-ssd-in-e5-575g-55kk-it-is-possible

3) You can install a ssd m2 2280

4) This model supports up to 32GB ram ddr4 memory: https://icecat.biz/br/p/acer/nx.gdwep.011/aspire-notebooks-e5-575g-50bt-35978704.html

Ideally, you check the current ram memory with aida64

Amigo, I have one additional question prior to closing this discussion, if you could help me:

I am about to buy the Kingston 240GB A1000, but I have been reading that this is 'entry level'. 
but I have the possibility to buy the 256GB EVO 970, and although it is x4 instead of x2, I know I will lose half of the performance that it offers, but I am wondering about the durability and overall performance considering the x2. 

I wanted this M2 to last for a long time!

Commodore_1995#

Both brands are good! However, I would opt to buy a ssd m2 2280 from 512gb sata 3! This user seems to be able to successfully install the 512gb ssd, see: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/467134/e5-575-51gg-m-2-slot

pinkosa

But mine is PCI not SATA

pinkosa

Unless you are talking about upgrading the HDD by the SSD SATA. I will do this in future! Already in my plans!

Commodore_1995#

Both the ssd m2 sata 3 and the nvme, use the door pcie!

pinkosa

I reinstall every 6 months (or less), I bought almost 2 years ago

Commodore_1995#

Eu acabei postando no lugar errado! Eu corrigi o tópico anterior!