[Predator G9-593] Does anyone know about the overclock profiles for CPU in PredatorSense?

deadlyghost
deadlyghost Member Posts: 58 Die Hard WiFi Icon
edited November 2023 in 2019 Archives
I looked up into the setup files of Predator Sense which I downloaded off Acer's Support and I found that only two processors were under plugs folder, i7-6820HK and i7-7820HK.
My laptop's configuration is : i7-7700HQ | GTX 1060 6GB | 128GB M.2 SSD | 16 GB RAM (single slot)
Can someone send me those .xtu overclock profiles for 7700HQ? or tell me the config of those overclock profiles so I can recreate them in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility?
PredatorSense version: 1.00.3012

Best Answers

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited March 2019 Answer ✓
    I doubt u will notice anything because as i said they are not overclockable the profile working doesnt mean its oveclocked and i dont use xtu it doesnt work for me most of the times doesnt really apply anything that says its applied i use TS to undervolt as i said no one managed to overclock any yet as far as i know they are all locked the only unlocked ones are the k cpus but hey good luck with it anyway :)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • ven98
    ven98 ACE Posts: 4,073 Pathfinder
    Answer ✓
    xapim said:
    Im affraid you cant overclock any of the predator variants cpus (the only think overclockable on gaming laptops its the gpu) only the k cpus are overclockable and as far as i now they do not exist on mobile versions only desktop
    I7-6820hk and i7-7820hk, as well as i9-8950hk are overclockable and these are mobile CPUs with BGA socket. There are laptops with desktop CPUs, too.

    To the OP:
    As the colleague @xapim mentioned Intel CPUs without K at the end are locked, therefore CPUs like i7-6700hq, i7 7700hq, i7 8750H can't be overclocked. Fortunately, I think it is possible to lift the all core turbo to be the same as the single core turbo(3.8GHz) using throttlestop, but it is possible that you might run into power limit, so the CPU might still not reach 3.8GHz on all cores.
    Always post the following characterisitcs of the device:
    -Model number
    -Part number(not required, but helpful)
    -CPU
    -GPU
    -Operating system

    Helios 300 and Nitro 5 users DO NOT update the BIOS to version 1.22 if you don't want the keyboard's backlight to turn off after 30 seconds even when the device is plugged in.


    Hit 'Like' if you find the answer helpful!   
    Click on 'Yes' if the comment answers your question!

Answers

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited March 2019
    Im affraid you cant overclock any of the predator variants cpus (the only think overclockable on gaming laptops its the gpu) only the k cpus are overclockable and as far as i now they do not exist on mobile versions only desktop


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • deadlyghost
    deadlyghost Member Posts: 58 Die Hard WiFi Icon
    xapim said:
    Im affraid you cant overclock any of the predator variants cpus only the k cpus are overclockable and as far as i now they do not exist on mobile versions only desktop
    Actually, I looked over the profiles of i7-7820HK and the only changes to those profiles were:
    Turbo Boost Short Power Max and Turbo Boost Power Max
    I exported three files(normal, fast, turbo) according to i7-7700HQ and put these files under the setup, added i7-7700HQ under PredatorSense.ini and it actually works. As for the performance, I haven't tested it out yet, will update this post as soon as I do some tests.

    Profiles: 
    normal: Turbo short: 56.250W (default) turbo power : 45W
    fast: Turbo short: 70W turbo power:45W
    turbo: Turbo short: 70W turbo power 56.25W
    I also changed Processor Core iccMax from 70A to 80A.
    Everything is stable right now on Turbo mode.
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited March 2019 Answer ✓
    I doubt u will notice anything because as i said they are not overclockable the profile working doesnt mean its oveclocked and i dont use xtu it doesnt work for me most of the times doesnt really apply anything that says its applied i use TS to undervolt as i said no one managed to overclock any yet as far as i know they are all locked the only unlocked ones are the k cpus but hey good luck with it anyway :)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • ven98
    ven98 ACE Posts: 4,073 Pathfinder
    Answer ✓
    xapim said:
    Im affraid you cant overclock any of the predator variants cpus (the only think overclockable on gaming laptops its the gpu) only the k cpus are overclockable and as far as i now they do not exist on mobile versions only desktop
    I7-6820hk and i7-7820hk, as well as i9-8950hk are overclockable and these are mobile CPUs with BGA socket. There are laptops with desktop CPUs, too.

    To the OP:
    As the colleague @xapim mentioned Intel CPUs without K at the end are locked, therefore CPUs like i7-6700hq, i7 7700hq, i7 8750H can't be overclocked. Fortunately, I think it is possible to lift the all core turbo to be the same as the single core turbo(3.8GHz) using throttlestop, but it is possible that you might run into power limit, so the CPU might still not reach 3.8GHz on all cores.
    Always post the following characterisitcs of the device:
    -Model number
    -Part number(not required, but helpful)
    -CPU
    -GPU
    -Operating system

    Helios 300 and Nitro 5 users DO NOT update the BIOS to version 1.22 if you don't want the keyboard's backlight to turn off after 30 seconds even when the device is plugged in.


    Hit 'Like' if you find the answer helpful!   
    Click on 'Yes' if the comment answers your question!

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited March 2019
    ven98 said:
    xapim said:
    Im affraid you cant overclock any of the predator variants cpus (the only think overclockable on gaming laptops its the gpu) only the k cpus are overclockable and as far as i now they do not exist on mobile versions only desktop
    I7-6820hk and i7-7820hk, as well as i9-8950hk are overclockable and these are mobile CPUs with BGA socket. There are laptops with desktop CPUs, too.

    To the OP:
    As the colleague @xapim mentioned Intel CPUs without K at the end are locked, therefore CPUs like i7-6700hq, i7 7700hq, i7 8750H can't be overclocked. Fortunately, I think it is possible to lift the all core turbo to be the same as the single core turbo(3.8GHz) using throttlestop, but it is possible that you might run into power limit, so the CPU might still not reach 3.8GHz on all cores.
    @ven98 thanks for the correction i wasnt really sure but its still right only the k cpus are unlocked and the max i get on my i5 7300HQ its 3095 (100% usage) with small spikes to 3.20 sometimes which its more than enough to play any game i run Anthem on ultra at 45/55 fps on my 1050ti full screen vsync off which its pretty good


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • deadlyghost
    deadlyghost Member Posts: 58 Die Hard WiFi Icon
    I know K processors are unlocked/overclockable and non-K aren't. I was confused a bit about the turbo settings. And apparently the profiles for the K processors under Predator Sense are just Power Profiles and nothing more. Well, thank you both for replying. :)
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    I know K processors are unlocked/overclockable and non-K aren't. I was confused a bit about the turbo settings. And apparently the profiles for the K processors under Predator Sense are just Power Profiles and nothing more. Well, thank you both for replying. :)
    No worries always glad to help in whatever i can :)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • ven98
    ven98 ACE Posts: 4,073 Pathfinder
    You are welcome :)
    Always post the following characterisitcs of the device:
    -Model number
    -Part number(not required, but helpful)
    -CPU
    -GPU
    -Operating system

    Helios 300 and Nitro 5 users DO NOT update the BIOS to version 1.22 if you don't want the keyboard's backlight to turn off after 30 seconds even when the device is plugged in.


    Hit 'Like' if you find the answer helpful!   
    Click on 'Yes' if the comment answers your question!