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Function keys with or without Fn holding

karelkramlkarelkraml Posts: 3Member New User
Having Acer Spin 5, the function keys F1 - F12 works only while holding Fn key, otherwise the display brightness, volumes and others are predefined on these keys. That's disaster, because the function keys F1 - F12 are mostly used in many softwares.
How can used them without pressing Fn, is any solution?

Karel

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  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306 Pathfinder
    edited November 2017 Accepted Answer

    Thanks for posting the keyboard picture since it helps me understand your issue. The keyboard specs that I have are for the SP513-51 which seem to have the normal keyboard upon which the FN key must also be depressed to enable the F# hotkey functions. What exact model number do you have?

    OK. Try this. Completely power down the machine. Start tapping the F2 button. Then, while still tapping the F2 button, press the power button to turn the machine back on. This should get you into the BIOS menu. Go to the MAIN dropdown to change the function key behavior. Then save and exit the setting. Report back.

     

    Jack E/NJ

  • AndiWAndiW Posts: 3 New User
    Accepted Answer
    I finally found it!!!

    There is no such option in the SP513-52N BIOS v1.0.0 as delivered with the computer. You will have to download the 1.0.1 BIOS from ACER and install it, then you get the missing option. To do that, reboot, log in on an administrator account and run the executable in the downloaded file. Then wait for the BIOS to install, shut down, start and press Fn-F2 (for the last time!), go in the menu, change the setting and HOORAY!

    After fixing the speakers in the afternoon (which sounded like a layer of sheet metal on top before I installed new drivers), I now start liking my new computer and just changed the ** rating in Amazon to **** because it is now usable for me. One star down for having to manually upgrade BIOS and at least two drivers (sound, fingerprint) of a freshly bought computer to get it work correctly.

    Andreas




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FAQ & Answers

  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    Which software are you using where the F1-F12 keys do NOT work? Jack E/NJ
  • CAT_LOVER_96CAT_LOVER_96 Posts: 1Member New User
    Same problem here. F5 doesn't refresh the page in firefox, for example. How can I fix that?
  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    cat_lover---So how can you tell that it's not refreshing? When you click on the refresh icon do you see the same result? Jack E/NJ
  • karelkramlkarelkraml Posts: 3Member New User
    It's not about software, it is default properties of the keybord. The primary activity of the function keys are set for notebook commands, like sleep regime, display brightness, volume up/down, and the typical commands F1 - F12 are active while holding Fn key. 

    Thats irritating, does somebody know how switch it, to have primary function of typical function keys? For example, in any software, when type F1, the comp go in sleeping mode, when I want help, I must hold Fn and type F1. F5 does refresh the viewer, but while holding Fn key, when I press only F5, its predefined to switch monitors... see the attached file, the functions of function keys are secondary :o

    Please, does somebody know how to fix it?

  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    edited November 2017 Accepted Answer

    Thanks for posting the keyboard picture since it helps me understand your issue. The keyboard specs that I have are for the SP513-51 which seem to have the normal keyboard upon which the FN key must also be depressed to enable the F# hotkey functions. What exact model number do you have?

    OK. Try this. Completely power down the machine. Start tapping the F2 button. Then, while still tapping the F2 button, press the power button to turn the machine back on. This should get you into the BIOS menu. Go to the MAIN dropdown to change the function key behavior. Then save and exit the setting. Report back.

     

    Jack E/NJ

  • KocourKocour Posts: 1Member New User
    Hello, i have Acer Spin 1 (SP111-32N) and in BIOS (v. 1.03) MAIN menu don't have function key behavior item. Why? Pls, help :) 

  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder

    Kocour---I can't find Fn key options in any of the Spin1 series BIOS firmware even though some of the generic manuals may suggest otherwise. You might try to set a BIOS password to see if it will enable an ADVANCE features BIOS option that might allow you to do so. But I don't think it's very likely. Jack E/NJ 

  • karelkramlkarelkraml Posts: 3Member New User
    JackE said:

    Thanks for posting the keyboard picture since it helps me understand your issue. The keyboard specs that I have are for the SP513-51 which seem to have the normal keyboard upon which the FN key must also be depressed to enable the F# hotkey functions. What exact model number do you have?

    OK. Try this. Completely power down the machine. Start tapping the F2 button. Then, while still tapping the F2 button, press the power button to turn the machine back on. This should get you into the BIOS menu. Go to the MAIN dropdown to change the function key behavior. Then save and exit the setting. Report back.

     

    Jack E/NJ

    Thanks, JackE, this was the solution..
  • DevonSpringsDevonSprings Posts: 2Member New User
    Ok I have an ACER SPIN 5. And I am a Certified Computer Guy (CCG) and when I go into the BIOS no such Function Keys Item on the Main Menu. By the Way on Windows 10 the way to the BIOS is to go into Recovery Mode you can't get there by tapping F2. 

    Really Painful using Microsoft Products everytime I want to edit a cell I put the wireless off.  


  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    Devon---You gotta be quick with the F2 key to get to BIOS menu outside Windows from a complete power down coldboot. Start tapping F2 before you even push the power button to turn the machine back on or see the ACER logo screen. What is your Spin5's full model number. What cell are you trying to edit that requires wifi to be turned off? Jack E/NJ 
  • SkagerstromSkagerstrom Posts: 7Member

    Tinkerer

    Hahaha Seriously - JackE... The Wifi on/off is on the F2 button. Another function of the F2 key is to actually press F2 - that is stock for editing cells in Excel or renaming files in Windows.

    I have the Spin 5 and this is one of my very few gripes with it - there is no way do reverse the FN funciton. No options in the UEFI, no utility, no FN+DEL,FN-NUML or other secret commands that works on Dells etc works on the Acer.
  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    Skagerstrom---Depends on the SP5 model number. Which do you have? Jack E/NJ
  • SkagerstromSkagerstrom Posts: 7Member

    Tinkerer

    513somethingsomething. The 2017 Kaby Lake R verison.
  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    edited December 2017
    Skagerstrom---On a coldboot, the SP513-51 model BIOS menu should be accessed by tapping the F2 key only. The SP513-52N model should be accessed by tapping F2 while also pressing the Fn key. Jack E/NJ
  • SkagerstromSkagerstrom Posts: 7Member

    Tinkerer

    Yeeeeeeeeees.... But there is still no option in the bios to reverse the functionality of the Fn key.....
  • AndiWAndiW Posts: 3Member New User
    Hi,

    I'm having the same problem: I get the Function keys only by holding down the Fn key, otherwise the special keys are used. Starting with (Fn-)F2, I only get into some crippled mini-BIOS (InsydeH20) that does not contain the Function key behavior options.

    System is brand-new SP513-52N-54SF, so a Spin 5 with the i5-8250U. German keyboard, Win 10 Home.

    Does anyone have a solution? It is a bit urgent, because I'll have only till end of this week before I have to decide whether to keep it or send it back to Amazon, and except for that problem I like the computer, so I would rather keep it. Unfortunately I work a lot with the keyboard blind even on the F-Keys (10-finger writer with >30 years in IT), so this behavior is unacceptable. It is also stupid, because it brings the rarely ever used functions on the first level and the often used on the second and especially puts the 'sleep' function on a single key - not a good idea.

    So any idea how I either get this fixed with some system settings (registry?) or how I could maybe get into the real (UEFI) setup program, where the parameter could be sent? I tried to get into the UEFI settings via Windows extended start options, but that didn't work either, it only brought me into that crippled stuff again.
  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder

    Skagerstrom---According to my specsheet, you must have the SP513-51 model. Sorry, only the SP513-52N has that feature. Jack E/NJ

    AndiW---To swap the hotkey and special function of the F1 to F12 keys, you must open the BIOS by tapping the F2 key from a cold boot. Then select the Main menu and change Function key behavior to Function keys.

    Jack E/NJ

  • SkagerstromSkagerstrom Posts: 7Member

    Tinkerer

    JackE : I have a SP513-52N with nordic keyboard. 
    The Uefi has the following:
    - Information
    - Main (Time, Date, Network Boot, F12 Boot Menu, Lid Open Resume, Wake on USB while lid closed, D2D Recovery, GPT Partion Recovery, and two options for GPT that are greyed out as GPT is disabled.
    - Advanced (Intel VXD, VTD and SATA config)
    - Security (To much to list... But trust me - it's not there) 
    - Boot (nope...)
    - Exit. 

    So nope - it's not there :)
  • JackEJackE Posts: 8,306ACE Pathfinder
    Sagerstrom---According to the 52N specs, it is not necessary to press the Fn key to use the F1 to F12 function keys when starting your computer (ie, coldbooting) or when using the BIOS. But to swap the hotkey and special function of the F1 to F12 keys after the OS takes over from the BIOS, change the function key setting in the BIOS (to open the BIOS press F2 when starting your computer(cold booting), then select the Main menu and change Function key behavior to Function keys.  Coldbooting means that you should first make sure the power is completely cut off before pressing the power button to turn the machine back on. Jack E/NJ
  • SkagerstromSkagerstrom Posts: 7Member

    Tinkerer

    It. Does. Not. Have. That. Option. 
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