Calling all Aspire V Nitro 2017 (593G) owners. Thermal issues discussion

I recieved my Aspire V Nitro 2017 15.6 inch (593G) laptop a few weeks back, and have had nothing but problems with it so far. I am wondering if other people's experiences are similar, so I can gauge whether or not I should send it in for repair. I'm in school right now so sending it in sets me back a bit, so I want to make sure if it's worth it or not.

Gaming Issues

Presently, gaming is near impossible due to excessive CPU temperatures. Playing an older game like Far Cry 3 at max settings can punch this CPU straight up to 100 C in only around 30 minutes, and stay there for the duration of a play session. This is with the laptop mounted to allow airflow underneath, a small fan blowing on the topside, and coolboost switched on. I've had similar experiences in other games as well. CPU idle temps are almost constantly ranging around 40-50 C, which isn't too great either. Oddly enough, the GPU is perfect temperature wise.

Regular Use Issues

This might just be my narrow opinion, given that prior to this I've only used macbooks, but the fans run unusually loud during daily activity. That is, while browsing in chrome, they are loud enough that I can hear them. They also will rev up like a motorcycle engine on occasion, which is incredibly unusual. It seems to specific to be an issue, and might just be intended (Which would be even more frustrating).

CPU Temperature Measurement

Using HWMonitor and MSI afterburner both show the GPU acting normally, with temp readings moving either up or down by increments of 1 degree C. The CPU can fluctuate per measurement by up to 20 C, moving from 60 to 80, or even 80 to 100, and immediately back down. Is this intended?

If anyone owns this laptop, would you mind telling me how you're experience has been and whether or not my unit may be defective or working as intended?

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Tfokus

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post more.

Thunderbird0904

Tfokus said:

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post mo

What fan controller software did you use? In MSI Afterburner you modified the iGPU?

Tfokus

Thunderbird0904 said:

Tfokus said:

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post mo
What fan controller software did you use? In MSI Afterburner you modified the iGPU?

I use Notebook Fancontrol software 1.5.3 beta. I can attach here the config file i'm using for my laptop.

The undervolting settings above are all for throttlestop. They work stable for my cpu.

Acer Aspire VN7-593G.zip

fwedpie

Tfokus said:

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post more.

hey, I believe I'm using the same computer as you and I am in need of desperate help to solve my temperature issues. Is there a place we can communicate?

Devildude4427

Tfokus said:

Thunderbird0904 said:

Tfokus said:

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post mo
What fan controller software did you use? In MSI Afterburner you modified the iGPU?

I use Notebook Fancontrol software 1.5.3 beta. I can attach here the config file i'm using for my laptop.

The undervolting settings above are all for throttlestop. They work stable for my cpu.

I know it's been nearly 4 months since you posted here, but is Notebook Fancontrol still working for you? I can't seem to get any config file to run on my machine personally, so while I'm talking to the software dev, I'd like to see if it is an issue with Acer updating something.

Tfokus

Devildude4427 said:

Tfokus said:

Thunderbird0904 said:

Tfokus said:

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post mo
What fan controller software did you use? In MSI Afterburner you modified the iGPU?

I use Notebook Fancontrol software 1.5.3 beta. I can attach here the config file i'm using for my laptop.

The undervolting settings above are all for throttlestop. They work stable for my cpu.

I know it's been nearly 4 months since you posted here, but is Notebook Fancontrol still working for you? I can't seem to get any config file to run on my machine personally, so while I'm talking to the software dev, I'd like to see if it is an issue with Acer updating something.

Yes, it's still working the same. There hasn't been any software updates from Acer. Btw, I'm using BIOS version 1.06.

Fethbita

@Tfokus Hello, I have the same numbered laptop VN7-593G but I have i7-7700hq instead. I could not get your config to work. Is there anything you could recommend?

Fethbita

With RW everything, I can now set the speed of my fans like this:

In the Embedded Controller (EC) Change the 90:03 to 14 to set one fan to manual, and right next to it 90:04 should be where you set its speed. The highest speed is 55. For the next fan change 90:06 to 14 to set to manual and 90:07 to set it's speed. The Speed goes from 55 to FF and if you higher it, the fan will slow down.

Radar23

Frediralled said:

Just in case someone stumbles on this empty thread with the same issues, I'll put in what solved my problems.

At factory settings, the CPU of this laptop is laughably overvolted. Simply undervolting by 100.00 mV on the CPU, and 80.00 mV on the integrated GPU puts the processor within operating ranges across the board. Playing a new, high end game such as Nier:Automata on high settings can't push this thing above 85 C, and it usually rests at around 80 C. For comparison, Overwatch on ultra pushed this thing to 100 C before undervolting. To undervolt, merely consult onlines guides. There are plenty out there.

My Vn7-593g was hitting max TPD 100c on all benchmarks and gaming . total nightmare

Today I repasted the CPU and GPU..

and I use throttlestop to under volt the cpu by a - 146.8 offset.

now idle temps in Australian summer are 40c

underload prime95 v26.6 custom test 8 thread, 1344, 1344 in place

max temps 75c...☺️

quick repaste works.. and undervolting is essential .

Radar23

Tfokus said:

I think i have solved the problem of thermal throttling with my Acer VN7-593G-54ZB. The key elements are using Notebook Fancontrol software and undervolting with throttlestop. My undervolting settings with i5 7300hq cpu:
Cpu Core: -150mV
Cpu Cache: -118 mV
Intel Gpu: -110 mV

In NBFC i have set the critical temperature to 83 C, so that the fans start blowing at 100 % after that temperature. My CPU now almost never goes above 85 C even when playing very demanding games like pubg or kingdom come. And GPU temps stay at about 75 C max. Fans are pretty loud at 100 % but i use headphones.

In throttlestop i havent disabled turbo so the cpu is performing at max. And in MSI afterburner i have set voltage curve @ 1708 Mhz starting from 810 mV.

If somebody wants more information i can post more.

Nice post.

In MSI AB i have 1900 curve from 1400 to 1600 . volts capped at 1000mv.

works greats..

TS at - 144.6 there abouts.

haven't disabled turbo.. speedstep on.

38 single core. .

the cpu is capped at 34 in all cores.
have the cpu cache on 32 same underclock as the cpu.

still testing . but since the repaste today the temps are always below 80c under load.

it's an impressive laptop.

been gaming sandstorm. beautiful at between 90-120 fps with vsync on.

playing via my lg oled 55" at 1080p 120hz...seriously great fun in my living room. ☺️

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