Acer Aspire E5-575-52JF m.2 nvme support

sshade · April 2017

Does the E5-575-52JF (i5-6200u CPU) support a m.2 nvme drive?

Is there a specific version of BIOS required?

brummyfan2 · April 2017

Hi,

Install HWINFO64, expand Bus, expand PCI Bus, highlight PCI Express Root Port and look for Maximum Link width, if it's 2x, you can use a NVMe SSD, I don't think you need a BIOS update.

brummyfan2 · April 2017

Hi,

Install HWINFO64, expand Bus, expand PCI Bus, highlight PCI Express Root Port and look for Maximum Link width, if it's 2x, you can use a NVMe SSD, I don't think you need a BIOS update.

sshade · April 2017

Thanks brummyfan2!

Anyone - thoughts of NVMe connection only PCIe 3.0 x2 width versus 3.0 x4 .... roughly half the performance?

Anyone install a Samsung 960 EVO 256, MyDigitalSSD BPx 240, or Plextor M8Pe 256 successfully? any issues?

brummyfan2 · April 2017

You are welcome Smiley Very Happy

ssalaheddine31 · June 2017

hi man in my laptop i find port 1.2.3 and 4 with

maximum link width : 1x

Current Link Width: 1x

but port 5 (the last port) with

Maximum Link Width: 4x

Current Link Width: 4x

Maximum Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s

Current Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s

Slot Power Limit: 25.000 W

so my laptop support m.2 nvme or not ?

i need your help

[sorry for my bad english]

brummyfan2 · June 2017

ssalaheddine31 wrote:
hi man in my laptop i find port 1.2.3 and 4 with
maximum link width : 1x
Current Link Width: 1x
but port 5 (the last port) with
Maximum Link Width: 4x
Current Link Width: 4x
Maximum Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s
Current Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s
Slot Power Limit: 25.000 W
so my laptop support m.2 nvme or not ?
i need your help
[sorry for my bad english]

Hi,

Yes, you can, your English is better than my French, so no need to apologise Smiley Wink

EDIT: Could you please post the HWiNFO64 snip of that PCI Express Port expanded and showing the Maximum Link width Speeds, if you can, expand all the Ports, I would like to check why the speed showing as 5.0GT/s.

ssalaheddine31 · June 2017

thnak you man for reply Smiley Happy

image :

brummyfan2 · June 2017

ssalaheddine31 wrote:
thnak you man for reply
image :

Hi,

Sorry, your CPU will not support a NVMe SSD, NVMe SSD uses PCIe 3.0x4 you have version 2.0 Smiley Sad

ssalaheddine31 · June 2017

ok .

merci

brummyfan2 · June 2017

You are welcome Smiley Very Happy

pankajn · August 2017

Hi there,

My laptop shows the following:

Can you please guide me if I have to use NVME or Sata 3 SSD?

Thanks.

brummyfan2 · August 2017

pankajn wrote:
Hi there,

My laptop shows the following:

Can you please guide me if I have to use NVME or Sata 3 SSD?

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes, you can use NVMe SSD or SATA M.2 SSD, both will work, you will not notice the difference between them but NVMe fares better only when you transfer large files, NVMe will work at half the speed advertised by the manufacturers, still 3x the SATA III drive.

Yuda_Aditya · October 2017

> @brummyfan2 said:
> pankajn wrote: Hi there,
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> Yes, you can use NVMe SSD or SATA M.2 SSD, both will work, you will not notice the difference between them but NVMe fares better only when you transfer large files, NVMe will work at half the speed advertised by the manufacturers, still 3x the SATA III drive.
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i wanna buy a ssd , i need to clarify is that my acer aspire e5 475g I5-7200U will work using NVMe m.2 ?
i have same picture like pankajn

slnacer · October 2017

hi
1. "Current Link Width " : Is this HWindfo64 available for Linux? How do i get this "current link width "dataitem in linux for PCI devices in linux?
From lshw i dont see the above data ..any suggestions?
2. btw my latop mode is E5-575-50RM one. Can i assume all E15 series models have provision for m.2 SSD slot first of all
thx in advance

brummyfan2 · October 2017

Yuda_Aditya said:

> @brummyfan2 said:
> pankajn wrote: Hi there,
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> My laptop shows the following:
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> Can you please guide me if I have to use NVME or Sata 3 SSD?
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> Thanks.
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> Hi,
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> Yes, you can use NVMe SSD or SATA M.2 SSD, both will work, you will not notice the difference between them but NVMe fares better only when you transfer large files, NVMe will work at half the speed advertised by the manufacturers, still 3x the SATA III drive.
>
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i wanna buy a ssd , i need to clarify is that my acer aspire e5 475g I5-7200U will work using NVMe m.2 ?
i have same picture like pankajn

Hi,
Could you please check whether your model is E5-575G, if so, yes you can install NVMe SSD but make sure that your Maximum Link width has the value of at least 2x.

brummyfan2 · October 2017

slnacer said:

hi
1. "Current Link Width " : Is this HWindfo64 available for Linux? How do i get this "current link width "dataitem in linux for PCI devices in linux?
From lshw i dont see the above data ..any suggestions?
2. btw my latop mode is E5-575-50RM one. Can i assume all E15 series models have provision for m.2 SSD slot first of all
thx in advance

Hi,
I am not familiar with Linux, you may have to wait for someone who is familiar with Linux systems to answer, sorry.
As for the second question, yes you have a slot for M.2 SSD.

slnacer · October 2017

Thanks for reply.
i found out "current link width " data item for PCI root port/devices from "lspci -vv" command which gives verbose details.
i paste the those lines below for the 3 PCI bridge hardware sections/items in the output for you to see if you can give your thoughts/inputs on capabilities.

00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
...
LnkCap: Port #9, Speed 8GT/s, Width x2, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <4us
...

00:1d.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d1a (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
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LnkCap: Port #11, Speed 8GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <1us, L1 <16us
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00:1d.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d1b (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
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LnkCap: Port #12, Speed 8GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <1us, L1 <16us
.....

Thanks in advance
slnacer

slnacer · October 2017

Pasting the full capabilities for PCI bridge device section with root port #9 as below:
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00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 122
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
Memory behind bridge: 90100000-902fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000090300000-00000000904fffff
Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0
ExtTag- RBE+
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #9, Speed 8GT/s, Width x2, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <4us
ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep+ BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
.....................

thx
slnacer

slnacer · October 2017

Sorry for my truncated paste above:
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00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 122
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
Memory behind bridge: 90100000-902fffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000090300000-00000000904fffff
Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0
ExtTag- RBE+
DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
LnkCap: Port #9, Speed 8GT/s, Width x2, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <4us
ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep+ BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk-
ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x0, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
SltCap: AttnBtn- PwrCtrl- MRL- AttnInd- PwrInd- HotPlug+ Surprise+
Slot #0, PowerLimit 0.000W; Interlock- NoCompl+
SltCtl: Enable: AttnBtn- PwrFlt- MRL- PresDet+ CmdCplt- HPIrq+ LinkChg+
Control: AttnInd Unknown, PwrInd Unknown, Power- Interlock-
SltSta: Status: AttnBtn- PowerFlt- MRL- CmdCplt- PresDet- Interlock-
Changed: MRL- PresDet- LinkState-
RootCtl: ErrCorrectable- ErrNon-Fatal- ErrFatal- PMEIntEna+ CRSVisible-
RootCap: CRSVisible-
RootSta: PME ReqID 0000, PMEStatus- PMEPending-
DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range ABC, TimeoutDis+, LTR+, OBFF Via WAKE# ARIFwd+
DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR+, OBFF Disabled ARIFwd-
LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 8GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1-
EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest-
Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
Address: fee00218 Data: 0000
Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 115f
Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
Kernel modules: shpchp