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[cosmos]

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Acer-Tommy wrote:

This community is not designed to provide worldwide technical support.  If you require technical support, please contact your local service or customer care center.

To address the BIOS related question:

Systems that shipped with Windows 7 are to use the v1.xx BIOS.

Systems that shipped with Windows 8 are to use the v2.xx UEFI.

They are not designed to cross one version to the other, neither up nor down.

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Local Acer support told me, in writing (I have the written ticket number and response), to update to 2.09, although my BIOS is 1.09! I have opened yet another ticket indicating that this is not possible. My system is an AO756.

Furthermore, like the poster before me stated, my system is NOT shipped with Windows 7, it came with Linux Linpus as well. But it states nowhere that only Windows 7 can be installed!!! This is ridiculous.

I have bought a full Windows 8 license and I am staring at it atm, without being able to install!

[Dianos]

  You need not the uefi-bios for Windows 8. 

It should be possible to install windows 8 with legacy bios.  Why not?  

[cosmos]

Because with a very minor change (read: EFI boot) I can get vastly faster startup times, on the exactly same hardware. I have paid for the same machine as any other AO756 owner who has the exact same machine, albeit with a 2.0x-series BIOS...

[Dianos]

For the V3-771G: maybe it is possible, written here, #12840:

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/7033-Insyde-bios-mod-requests/page1284

[hainerruuben]

OFF TOPIC

but, can you point out what this forum is really for?

[Phil-3]

Hi hainerruuben,

The Acer Support Forums is a peer to peer support forum where Acer customers share knowledge and assist each other.  Although Acer staff may occasionally post here, this is not a direct portal to Acer customer support.

Hope that helps!

[hainerruuben]

Thanks for the quick reply! :-) Really helpful

[mesut]

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AceofBase wrote:

Yesterday Acer released BIOS 1.12 and UEFI BIOS 2.12! I successfully updated from 1.11 to 1.12!
After that I tried to flash the UEFI BIOS 2.12. But this won´t work ... error: Please update to the same type of BIOS(V1.xx)!

Any ideas???

My machine: Acer V3 771G, i5 3210M, GT650M, Windows 8

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[acer771guefi]

NOT MY FAULT IF YOU ScR£W you machine.... THis is high risk. I have an Acer 771G 8GB Ram etc and have been trying the same. It came Factory installed with Windows 7 64 bit on a Legacy BIos. I then Upgraded to Windows 8 then 8.1 on the original Hard Drive and Legacy Bios. You will never be able to change this hard drive SETUP or bios to boot UEFI. (OK a total computer guru can but no one here sounds like one and a total guru wouldn't be posting to this forum... I'm not one, I'm just an idiot who thinks he can) . In short the answer is what they are saying above. However I am now on UEFI from Legacy Bios...

It's all about the Hard Drive, it's partitions, the bios and the windows installation. See below (I know my SSD is only 32GB, just trying it out before moving it to a bigger one, rather trash a 256GB one!)

So you can see Disk 1 is the new GPT Partition structure that supports the UEFI Bios AS A CLEAN INSTALL and Disk 2 is the "old" Factory INstalled Win 7 64 (actually running windows 8.1 via upgrade). SO... IF Windows was originally installed on the Legacy Bios then your Harddrive & Bios was set up the "old way".

To install Windows 8 as a UEFI GPT etc Partition structure and get the fast cold boot to windows in under 10 seconds (its pretty amazing!) you basically have to start with a totally new hard drive and totally new windows installation.... basically a toatlly new laptop. Remove your "old" hard drive (dont wipe it incase you screw this up!).

Then create the UEFI Bios boot USB to flash the bios to UEFI.

Then create a windows 8 UEFI boot USB instructions here http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html

This then formats your new hard drive totally differently, the mbr is different/gone etc.

UEFI cannot "see/boot" from a harddrive formatted the other way and that is why guys flashing the UEFI Bios are  then not being able to boot windows and the comuter saying there is no windows to boot etc... I use 2nd HDD port for the "old" HDD as a backup drive now. It still has Windows 8.1 fully installed on it but the UEFI Bios doesn't see it as a boot drive AT ALL. Once Windows is running the Hardrive can still be used as normal but NOT AS A BOOT DRIVE. (You can obviously wipe this one and make it bootable as above but like I say make sure the above has worked before you start nailing your current & "after you've screwed it I wish I hadn't done it" factory installed HDD with nice ACER recovery partitions etc etc

I wouldn't recommend the above unless you're happy with the possibility your laptop will make a nice cat litter tray or support for that wonky table you own...

BUT it is sooo much better... way faster boot and Ram is down at 23% from over 50% in the "old" bios windows 8.1.

Once you start seeing what is involved I can understand why Acer Technicians are telling people it's not possible... because it isn't really, you have to start totally from afresh.