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Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

AcerForumer — Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:32:27 GMT

Hi,

I'm actively thinking of purchasing a R7-572. But does it have a mSata ssd slot? I saw one French ecommerce website that seems to say to, as they sell it with a 1To HDD + 24Go SSD ( http://www.rueducommerce.fr/Ordinateurs/Ordinateur-Portable/Ordinateur-Portable-Grand-Public/ACER/4905413-Aspire-R7-572G-74508G1-02Tass-Ordinateur-Portable-15-6-Full-HD-convertible-en-tablette-tactile-Intel-Core-i7-4500U-1-8-GHz-HDD-1-To-SSD-24-Go-RAM-8-Go-NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M-Windows-8-Gris-Metal.htm ) but other websites say it's not likely (but they didn't open the laptop)...

Any idea about the subject?

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

septitank — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 12:35:23 GMT

You are thinking about having the OS on mSata and everything else on included harddisk versus having everything on SSD ?

1) According to http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/system-requirements the OS requires 20 GB, so if the mSata is only 24 GB, it leaves little room for modifications.

2) SSD is more quite.

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

mazen — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:45:52 GMT

Yes, it has mSata slot. If you are in the U.S u must have the 1TB version wich is not bad and fast enough for regular use at the begining but, i u use your r7 with a heavy programs like editing and similar you need a faster speed drive.

For me i will install a 120GB mSata using it as storage and for faster access.

Good luck

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

AcerForumer — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:25:16 GMT

@mazen: Just to confirm, are you speaking about the R5-572 and not the 571? And did you have the possibility to check it by yourself or where did you find the info? I actually saw the 571 indeed have a mSata slot, but I'm not sure about the 572... Regards

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

mazen — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:42:07 GMT

maybe it was V7 582PG that i was talking about, i will check my r7 and return to you.

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

AcerForumer — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 08:44:33 GMT

I have received my R7-572 in the meantime, and I can confirm:

Despite what Acer's technical support told me (!!!),

Yes, the Acer R7-572 has a mSata slot. I tested it and it works well. With it, the R7-572 is fully silent : trully marvelous.

I actually hesitated with the Vaio Flip, which has strong positive points as well, but Vaio Flip suffers so much from its noisy fan that it was a blocking point for me.

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

jra166 — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 19:02:10 GMT

I am planning on adding an SSD to my R7. What models do you reccomend, or have you had success with?

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

greg1 — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:49:19 GMT

I have the R7-572-6423 and I don't recall seeing any mSATA slot. What is your model number? Does yours have 2 slots for RAM?

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

greg1 — Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:50:13 GMT

http://community.acer.com/t5/Notebooks-Netbooks/Aspire-R7-572-Stylus-RAM-upgrade-Hard-Drive-upgrade/td-p/162245

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

AcerForumer — Mon, 16 Dec 2013 20:51:53 GMT

I installed a Crucial m500 480Go, and my R7 is precisely a R7-572-54208G75ASS. Yet, I believe they all have the same motherboard, and so can all receive a msata. To install the msata disk was just a question of removing the 13 torx screws, opening the case and inserting the msata card - trivial, and done in 5 min.

This is a picture of the R7-571 (found on Anadtech), not of the 572 but they are exactly the same with the single difference being that there is a 2nd slot of RAM for the R572. As far as the other components are concerned, inlcuding the msata, there are exactly at the same location.

So I have both a 480 ssd (msata) drive and a regular 750Go drive on the laptop, the latter being seldom used (big movies, backup, virtual machines...).

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

themadmax — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 04:05:27 GMT

I installed an mSata and used the instructions from Lifehacker to try to make it my boot drive, but I am running into a problem: to make it the primary boot device I have to choose "legacy" in the bios, and then I get a boot error that the media is not bootable. AcerForumer, what did you do to make this work?

Thanks!

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

AcerForumer — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 07:58:29 GMT

Nothing special actually... I let the bios with the default settings (uefi, etc.), booted from a usb key (where the install of win 8.1 was), chose to install win 8.1 to the ssd and that's it... The next time I booted the laptop, it booted from the ssd and no more from the 'mechanical' drive. I'm afraid that won't help you much. Good luck

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

themadmax — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 16:52:20 GMT

Did you clone the OEM windows to the USB, or a clean install? I was trying to clone the HDD to the mSATA (plenty of room) but that could be the problem.

Thanks!

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

AcerForumer — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:14:15 GMT

@themadmax, you're right, that's likely the difference: I made a fresh install, not a clone. Most forum threads advise to do it, depsite the extra-time it takes.

For other readers, a truly wonderful thing I discovered about the Crucial m500 serie ssd: contrary to many ssd with embedded encryption, m500 ssd are compatible with Microsoft eDrive (see: www.anandtech.com/show/6884/crucial-micron-m500-review-960gb-480gb-240gb-120gb/2 ). The advantages:

full-security,
virtually no performance impact (versus 10% to 28% for the well-know Samsung 840 Pro), and
instant encryption of the drive whatever its capacity.

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

themadmax — Fri, 20 Dec 2013 23:11:30 GMT

@AcerForumer thanks so much! Clean install worked like a champ so now I have an m500 with plenty of space and a 1TB to store even more. Loving this computer.

madmax

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

alan6101 — Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:31:39 GMT

I just got the same drive for my R7. Great drive and some great deals on them at newegg lately.

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

jra166 — Sat, 21 Dec 2013 22:08:32 GMT

How are you guys doing a clean install without a disc?

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

themadmax — Sat, 21 Dec 2013 23:14:19 GMT

Here is what finally worked for me:

Make a recovery disk on a USB drive (acer has the software preinstalled) and also clone the HDD to another drive (just in case). Install the mSATA and remove the HDD, restart the computer. It lead you through the recovery process, but this time the install will be on the mSata instead of the HDD. Once things are going well, reinstall the HDD and format it.

madmax

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

MDacerGuy — Sat, 21 Dec 2013 23:31:58 GMT

I have the new model R7-572

can somebody please clarify this msata business?

so if i buy a msata,say 500gig. i can keep my 1TB that came with the computer?

but I want windows and all install programs to run off the mSata SSD of course

how do i get that to happen?

or if you buy a small msata SSD, its'll just act like a lil cache like it did in the R7-571?

any clarificiation is appreciated

Re: Acer R7-572 SSD or mSata

themadmax — Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:08:58 GMT

Threre is still an mSata slot unused, so you can have an mSata and the HDD